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    Pszemol
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    Default Life expectancy of leather sits

    I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
    significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
    The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
    before I should expect the leather sits to crack?

    What is the best way to extend their life expectancy?

    BTW - are the sits made from *real* leather? I have
    my doubts looking at the map pocket behind the sit,
    which looks like just black vinyl with white foam
    or cloth undercoating...



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    dan
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    Pszemol wrote:
    > I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
    > significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
    > The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
    > before I should expect the leather sits to crack?
    >


    My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new. YMMV.

    dan

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    Pszemol
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    "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message news:G06Xi.101$kV1.31776@news.sisna.com...
    > Pszemol wrote:
    >> I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
    >> significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
    >> The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
    >> before I should expect the leather sits to crack?

    >
    > My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new.


    Cool, how much driving have you done during these 18yr?
    How do you take care for your leather?

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    dan
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    68Pszemol wrote:
    > "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
    > news:G06Xi.101$kV1.31776@news.sisna.com...
    >> Pszemol wrote:
    >>> I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
    >>> significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
    >>> The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
    >>> before I should expect the leather sits to crack?

    >>
    >> My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new.

    >
    > Cool, how much driving have you done during these 18yr?
    > How do you take care for your leather?


    I should have said the car has been garaged it's whole life, and has
    68K miles. Usually only has a driver and no passengers. The back seat
    is like brand new and the fronts are real nice. I don't think that
    there has been anything done to the seats except the original owner had
    "perma-plate leatherguard" and "vinyl protectant" applied at the
    stealership that had a 5 year warranty.

    I think the wear and tear has a lot to do with the owner of the vehicle.

    I have not, and do not plan on using any chemicals on the seats whatsoever.

    dan

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    Pszemol
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    "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4S6Xi.104$OW1.111726@news.sisna.com...
    > 68Pszemol wrote:
    >> "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
    >> news:G06Xi.101$kV1.31776@news.sisna.com...
    >>> Pszemol wrote:
    >>>> I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
    >>>> significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
    >>>> The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
    >>>> before I should expect the leather sits to crack?
    >>>
    >>> My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new.

    >>
    >> Cool, how much driving have you done during these 18yr?
    >> How do you take care for your leather?

    >
    > I should have said the car has been garaged it's whole life, and has
    > 68K miles. Usually only has a driver and no passengers. The back seat
    > is like brand new and the fronts are real nice. I don't think that
    > there has been anything done to the seats except the original owner had
    > "perma-plate leatherguard" and "vinyl protectant" applied at the
    > stealership that had a 5 year warranty.


    Well, you gave very missleading statement then... :-)

    Anybody reading your first post here about 18 years
    old car could have imagined a car with a normal driving
    schedule of 12k-15k miles per year, so it would mean
    a car with milleage of 216-270k ->>> Good luck
    finding such car with original leather sits in good
    condition... :-)

    Sits are not geting damage from being in the garage
    for years - they get damage from sitting on them :-)
    Getting in and out of vehicle, temperature changes,
    UV rays and humidity, etc...

    > I think the wear and tear has a lot to do with the owner of the vehicle.


    What exactly do you mean?

    > I have not, and do not plan on using any chemicals on the seats whatsoever.


    With that rate of driving I would not either...
    I got my '04 accord in May '07 with 38k miles - now in November it has 48k.
    Probably somewhere next year I will hit 68k and get equal wear with
    your 18 years old car :-)

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    dan
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    Pszemol wrote:

    >>> How do you take care for your leather?

    >>

    If it ain't broke...

    dan

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    Pszemol
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    "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message news:tUoXi.6$Et6.48176@news.sisna.com...
    > Pszemol wrote:
    >
    >>>> How do you take care for your leather?
    >>>

    > If it ain't broke...


    I am not trying to fix something not broken.
    I want to PREVENT premature crack - can you see the difference?

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    Seth
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    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
    news:fgko5i.e1o.0@poczta.onet.pl...
    > "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
    > news:tUoXi.6$Et6.48176@news.sisna.com...
    >> Pszemol wrote:
    >>
    >>>>> How do you take care for your leather?
    >>>>

    >> If it ain't broke...

    >
    > I am not trying to fix something not broken.
    > I want to PREVENT premature crack - can you see the difference?



    '01 Accord w/leather. 194,000 miles. No care taken, no rips or tears.


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    Tony Harding
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    Pszemol wrote:
    > "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
    > news:4S6Xi.104$OW1.111726@news.sisna.com...
    >> 68Pszemol wrote:
    >>> "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:G06Xi.101$kV1.31776@news.sisna.com...
    >>>> Pszemol wrote:
    >>>>> I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
    >>>>> significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
    >>>>> The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
    >>>>> before I should expect the leather sits to crack?
    >>>>
    >>>> My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new.
    >>>
    >>> Cool, how much driving have you done during these 18yr?
    >>> How do you take care for your leather?

    >>
    >> I should have said the car has been garaged it's whole life, and has
    >> 68K miles. Usually only has a driver and no passengers. The back seat
    >> is like brand new and the fronts are real nice. I don't think that
    >> there has been anything done to the seats except the original owner
    >> had "perma-plate leatherguard" and "vinyl protectant" applied at the
    >> stealership that had a 5 year warranty.

    >
    > Well, you gave very missleading statement then... :-)
    >
    > Anybody reading your first post here about 18 years
    > old car could have imagined a car with a normal driving
    > schedule of 12k-15k miles per year, so it would mean
    > a car with milleage of 216-270k ->>> Good luck
    > finding such car with original leather sits in good
    > condition... :-)
    >
    > Sits are not geting damage from being in the garage
    > for years


    Au contraire, I beg to differ here, time is certainly a factor in the
    service life of leather seats. True, no one's sliding in and out of them
    while the car's garaged, but they're aging nonetheless, e.g., drying out
    & splitting or cracking, being attacked by whatever air pollution flies
    around your neighborhood, dust (dirt) settling on them, etc.

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    Pszemol
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    "Tony Harding" <ToHard@nowhere.org> wrote in message news:eUFXi.13$Gq7.10@newsfe09.lga...
    >> Well, you gave very missleading statement then... :-)
    >>
    >> Anybody reading your first post here about 18 years
    >> old car could have imagined a car with a normal driving
    >> schedule of 12k-15k miles per year, so it would mean
    >> a car with milleage of 216-270k ->>> Good luck
    >> finding such car with original leather sits in good
    >> condition... :-)
    >>
    >> Sits are not geting damage from being in the garage
    >> for years

    >
    > Au contraire, I beg to differ here, time is certainly a factor in the
    > service life of leather seats. True, no one's sliding in and out of them
    > while the car's garaged, but they're aging nonetheless, e.g., drying out
    > & splitting or cracking, being attacked by whatever air pollution flies
    > around your neighborhood, dust (dirt) settling on them, etc.


    This is true, but normal drying and air pollution
    does not avoid sits in car normally used - on top
    of this leather works, bends, stretch, warps under your
    butt while getting in-out the car and when driving... :-)

    It is also easily proven by the fact, that if a leather
    sit car has damage on the sits from wear it is in most
    cases on the driver sit, not on the back or passenger.
    Driver sit is the one used the most.

    On several sites I have read that leather sits last longer
    than cloth sits, but my experience with seeing old cars
    is quite opposite to this statement - I see frequently
    10 years old cars with cracked/torn leather and very
    rearely I see damaged cloth sits. I have 1995 toyota
    camry with cloth sits and 240k miles on the odometer.
    Sits are little dirty but cloth has no rips or holes.

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