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  1. #1
    X-Eliminator
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    Default 99 Bonneville - Daytime Running Lights

    I disconnected the DRL resistor under the hood but this does not
    disable the DRL's as expected from this link:

    http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec

    It looks like the headlights are now full brightness but the
    headlights are still on (I want them to be off and operated only by
    the light switch).

    What is the next step - jumper the DRL relay ?

    Anyone have any suggestions?




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  2. #2
    Jim Northey
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    Default Re: 99 Bonneville - Daytime Running Lights

    look for a fuse for the drl . ON my F150 it was in the engine compartment.
    When the fuse blew everything else worked but the drl. Not the same vehicle
    but something to look for and or try.
    Jim
    "X-Eliminator" <blablabla@aohell.com> wrote in message
    news:52pne7hrjva5uj0rbs3ga7jps7cr7n34ga@4ax.com...
    >I disconnected the DRL resistor under the hood but this does not
    > disable the DRL's as expected from this link:
    >
    > http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec
    >
    > It looks like the headlights are now full brightness but the
    > headlights are still on (I want them to be off and operated only by
    > the light switch).
    >
    > What is the next step - jumper the DRL relay ?
    >
    > Anyone have any suggestions?
    >
    >




  3. #3
    X-Eliminator
    Guest

    Default 99 Bonneville - Daytime Running Lights

    There is no separate fuse for the DRL on a 99 - it's integrated into
    the headlight fuse.


    On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:15:33 -0700, "Jim Northey" <jnorthey@shaw.ca>
    wrote:

    >look for a fuse for the drl . ON my F150 it was in the engine compartment.
    >When the fuse blew everything else worked but the drl. Not the same vehicle
    >but something to look for and or try.
    > Jim
    >"X-Eliminator" <blablabla@aohell.com> wrote in message
    >news:52pne7hrjva5uj0rbs3ga7jps7cr7n34ga@4ax.com.. .
    >>I disconnected the DRL resistor under the hood but this does not
    >> disable the DRL's as expected from this link:
    >>
    >> http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec
    >>
    >> It looks like the headlights are now full brightness but the
    >> headlights are still on (I want them to be off and operated only by
    >> the light switch).
    >>
    >> What is the next step - jumper the DRL relay ?
    >>
    >> Anyone have any suggestions?
    >>
    >>

    >


  4. #4
    DMHenrie
    Guest

    Default Re: 99 Bonneville - Daytime Running Lights

    If you still need this info ..
    I have a 2000 Grand Prix GTP, and the way to disable it that works, is to
    unplug the voltage reducing diode, which is a large finned object located on
    outer wall of drivrs side of dash. Can be seen through an access pnel when
    door is open.
    If you unplug the diode, running lights will not work, but everything else
    works as normal.
    I would imagine a 99 Bonneville would be close to this.


    "X-Eliminator" <blablabla@aohell.com> wrote in message
    news:52pne7hrjva5uj0rbs3ga7jps7cr7n34ga@4ax.com...
    >I disconnected the DRL resistor under the hood but this does not
    > disable the DRL's as expected from this link:
    >
    > http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec
    >
    > It looks like the headlights are now full brightness but the
    > headlights are still on (I want them to be off and operated only by
    > the light switch).
    >
    > What is the next step - jumper the DRL relay ?
    >
    > Anyone have any suggestions?
    >
    >




  5. #5
    X-Eliminator
    Guest

    Default 99 Bonneville - Daytime Running Lights

    I completely removed the DRL resistor like it says on the website
    below, but no joy. I pulled the ambient light sensor, still no joy. I
    can't find the relay box to look for the DRL relay so that I can
    hotwire it. My last option is to find the Park/Neutral Position Switch
    so that I can trick the Light Control Module into seeing the
    transmission in park which will allow me to turn off the headlights
    using the headlight switch at will.

    The Pontiac unlike other cars does not have a separate DRL module.
    Instead everything is contaolled by the (master) Light Contol Module
    which means that you need to manipulate the inputs to the module to
    control the DRL. When the Light Control Module gets a "Park" input
    telling it that the transmission is in park, the DRL's go off. My goal
    is to trick the Module into thinking that the car is in park all the
    time. I'm doing all this because I installed HID headlights and they
    are flaky when the DRL is active. It's turning into a real pain in the
    ass:

    http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html




    On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:16:59 -0500, "DMHenrie" <DMHenrie@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >If you still need this info ..
    >I have a 2000 Grand Prix GTP, and the way to disable it that works, is to
    >unplug the voltage reducing diode, which is a large finned object located on
    >outer wall of drivrs side of dash. Can be seen through an access pnel when
    >door is open.
    >If you unplug the diode, running lights will not work, but everything else
    >works as normal.
    >I would imagine a 99 Bonneville would be close to this.
    >
    >
    >"X-Eliminator" <blablabla@aohell.com> wrote in message
    >news:52pne7hrjva5uj0rbs3ga7jps7cr7n34ga@4ax.com.. .
    >>I disconnected the DRL resistor under the hood but this does not
    >> disable the DRL's as expected from this link:
    >>
    >> http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec
    >>
    >> It looks like the headlights are now full brightness but the
    >> headlights are still on (I want them to be off and operated only by
    >> the light switch).
    >>
    >> What is the next step - jumper the DRL relay ?
    >>
    >> Anyone have any suggestions?
    >>
    >>

    >


  6. #6
    Paul in Houston TX
    Guest

    Default Re: 99 Bonneville - Daytime Running Lights

    X-Eliminator wrote:
    > I completely removed the DRL resistor like it says on the website
    > below, but no joy. I pulled the ambient light sensor, still no joy. I
    > can't find the relay box to look for the DRL relay so that I can
    > hotwire it. My last option is to find the Park/Neutral Position Switch
    > so that I can trick the Light Control Module into seeing the
    > transmission in park which will allow me to turn off the headlights
    > using the headlight switch at will.
    >
    > The Pontiac unlike other cars does not have a separate DRL module.
    > Instead everything is contaolled by the (master) Light Contol Module
    > which means that you need to manipulate the inputs to the module to
    > control the DRL. When the Light Control Module gets a "Park" input
    > telling it that the transmission is in park, the DRL's go off. My goal
    > is to trick the Module into thinking that the car is in park all the
    > time. I'm doing all this because I installed HID headlights and they
    > are flaky when the DRL is active. It's turning into a real pain in the
    > ass:
    >
    > http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:16:59 -0500, "DMHenrie" <DMHenrie@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> If you still need this info ..
    >> I have a 2000 Grand Prix GTP, and the way to disable it that works, is to
    >> unplug the voltage reducing diode, which is a large finned object located on
    >> outer wall of drivrs side of dash. Can be seen through an access pnel when
    >> door is open.
    >> If you unplug the diode, running lights will not work, but everything else
    >> works as normal.
    >> I would imagine a 99 Bonneville would be close to this.
    >>
    >>
    >> "X-Eliminator" <blablabla@aohell.com> wrote in message
    >> news:52pne7hrjva5uj0rbs3ga7jps7cr7n34ga@4ax.com...
    >>> I disconnected the DRL resistor under the hood but this does not
    >>> disable the DRL's as expected from this link:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec
    >>>
    >>> It looks like the headlights are now full brightness but the
    >>> headlights are still on (I want them to be off and operated only by
    >>> the light switch).
    >>>
    >>> What is the next step - jumper the DRL relay ?
    >>>
    >>> Anyone have any suggestions?


    What about trying the Buick solution as listed on that web site?
    Maybe you have a 99 1/2 that uses 2000 controls.


  7. #7
    clare@snyder.on.ca
    Guest

    Default Re: 99 Bonneville - Daytime Running Lights

    On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:15:25 -0600, X-Eliminator
    <blablabla@aohell.com> wrote:

    >I completely removed the DRL resistor like it says on the website
    >below, but no joy. I pulled the ambient light sensor, still no joy. I
    >can't find the relay box to look for the DRL relay so that I can
    >hotwire it. My last option is to find the Park/Neutral Position Switch
    >so that I can trick the Light Control Module into seeing the
    >transmission in park which will allow me to turn off the headlights
    >using the headlight switch at will.
    >
    >The Pontiac unlike other cars does not have a separate DRL module.
    >Instead everything is contaolled by the (master) Light Contol Module
    >which means that you need to manipulate the inputs to the module to
    >control the DRL. When the Light Control Module gets a "Park" input
    >telling it that the transmission is in park, the DRL's go off. My goal
    >is to trick the Module into thinking that the car is in park all the
    >time. I'm doing all this because I installed HID headlights and they
    >are flaky when the DRL is active. It's turning into a real pain in the
    >ass:
    >
    >http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:16:59 -0500, "DMHenrie" <DMHenrie@hotmail.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>If you still need this info ..
    >>I have a 2000 Grand Prix GTP, and the way to disable it that works, is to
    >>unplug the voltage reducing diode, which is a large finned object located on
    >>outer wall of drivrs side of dash. Can be seen through an access pnel when
    >>door is open.
    >>If you unplug the diode, running lights will not work, but everything else
    >>works as normal.
    >>I would imagine a 99 Bonneville would be close to this.
    >>
    >>
    >>"X-Eliminator" <blablabla@aohell.com> wrote in message
    >>news:52pne7hrjva5uj0rbs3ga7jps7cr7n34ga@4ax.com. ..
    >>>I disconnected the DRL resistor under the hood but this does not
    >>> disable the DRL's as expected from this link:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec
    >>>
    >>> It looks like the headlights are now full brightness but the
    >>> headlights are still on (I want them to be off and operated only by
    >>> the light switch).
    >>>
    >>> What is the next step - jumper the DRL relay ?
    >>>
    >>> Anyone have any suggestions?
    >>>
    >>>

    >>

    Why would you WANT to disable DRLs????????

    Just let the dang things light up. They don't cost you ANY gas.
    They are required by law in quite a few countries - and the beauty of
    the Pontiac system is it is impossible to walk away from your car
    leaving the lights on if you just leave it on automatic.

  8. #8
    X-Eliminator
    Guest

    Default 99 Bonneville - Daytime Running Lights

    On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:28:46 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
    <Paul@Houston.com> wrote:

    >X-Eliminator wrote:
    >> I completely removed the DRL resistor like it says on the website
    >> below, but no joy. I pulled the ambient light sensor, still no joy. I
    >> can't find the relay box to look for the DRL relay so that I can
    >> hotwire it. My last option is to find the Park/Neutral Position Switch
    >> so that I can trick the Light Control Module into seeing the
    >> transmission in park which will allow me to turn off the headlights
    >> using the headlight switch at will.
    >>
    >> The Pontiac unlike other cars does not have a separate DRL module.
    >> Instead everything is contaolled by the (master) Light Contol Module
    >> which means that you need to manipulate the inputs to the module to
    >> control the DRL. When the Light Control Module gets a "Park" input
    >> telling it that the transmission is in park, the DRL's go off. My goal
    >> is to trick the Module into thinking that the car is in park all the
    >> time. I'm doing all this because I installed HID headlights and they
    >> are flaky when the DRL is active. It's turning into a real pain in the
    >> ass:
    >>
    >> http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:16:59 -0500, "DMHenrie" <DMHenrie@hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> If you still need this info ..
    >>> I have a 2000 Grand Prix GTP, and the way to disable it that works, is to
    >>> unplug the voltage reducing diode, which is a large finned object located on
    >>> outer wall of drivrs side of dash. Can be seen through an access pnel when
    >>> door is open.
    >>> If you unplug the diode, running lights will not work, but everything else
    >>> works as normal.
    >>> I would imagine a 99 Bonneville would be close to this.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "X-Eliminator" <blablabla@aohell.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:52pne7hrjva5uj0rbs3ga7jps7cr7n34ga@4ax.com...
    >>>> I disconnected the DRL resistor under the hood but this does not
    >>>> disable the DRL's as expected from this link:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec
    >>>>
    >>>> It looks like the headlights are now full brightness but the
    >>>> headlights are still on (I want them to be off and operated only by
    >>>> the light switch).
    >>>>
    >>>> What is the next step - jumper the DRL relay ?
    >>>>
    >>>> Anyone have any suggestions?

    >
    >What about trying the Buick solution as listed on that web site?
    >Maybe you have a 99 1/2 that uses 2000 controls.



    Yep that's the ticket - the solution for the 1999 Buick LeSabre. On my
    car the A7 input to the Lamp Control Module is light green and there's
    no A8 input shown in the 1999 Factory Service Manual schematic
    (Bonneville, Eighty Eight, LSS, Regency, and Le Sabre). I can just
    wire a fused ignition input voltage from the remote start to that
    input which will solve my problem.

    There another way to do that since the input to A7 comes from the
    Park/Neutral Position (PNP) Switch (mounted at the transmission
    linkage). It would be an easy thing to cut the wire right there and
    apply the 12 volt ignition wire and not have to take anything apart
    under the dash board.


  9. #9
    X-Eliminator
    Guest

    Default 99 Bonneville - Daytime Running Lights

    On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:56:29 -0500, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:

    >On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:15:25 -0600, X-Eliminator
    ><blablabla@aohell.com> wrote:
    >
    >>I completely removed the DRL resistor like it says on the website
    >>below, but no joy. I pulled the ambient light sensor, still no joy. I
    >>can't find the relay box to look for the DRL relay so that I can
    >>hotwire it. My last option is to find the Park/Neutral Position Switch
    >>so that I can trick the Light Control Module into seeing the
    >>transmission in park which will allow me to turn off the headlights
    >>using the headlight switch at will.
    >>
    >>The Pontiac unlike other cars does not have a separate DRL module.
    >>Instead everything is contaolled by the (master) Light Contol Module
    >>which means that you need to manipulate the inputs to the module to
    >>control the DRL. When the Light Control Module gets a "Park" input
    >>telling it that the transmission is in park, the DRL's go off. My goal
    >>is to trick the Module into thinking that the car is in park all the
    >>time. I'm doing all this because I installed HID headlights and they
    >>are flaky when the DRL is active. It's turning into a real pain in the
    >>ass:
    >>
    >>http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:16:59 -0500, "DMHenrie" <DMHenrie@hotmail.com>
    >>wrote:
    >>
    >>>If you still need this info ..
    >>>I have a 2000 Grand Prix GTP, and the way to disable it that works, is to
    >>>unplug the voltage reducing diode, which is a large finned object located on
    >>>outer wall of drivrs side of dash. Can be seen through an access pnel when
    >>>door is open.
    >>>If you unplug the diode, running lights will not work, but everything else
    >>>works as normal.
    >>>I would imagine a 99 Bonneville would be close to this.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>"X-Eliminator" <blablabla@aohell.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:52pne7hrjva5uj0rbs3ga7jps7cr7n34ga@4ax.com ...
    >>>>I disconnected the DRL resistor under the hood but this does not
    >>>> disable the DRL's as expected from this link:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec
    >>>>
    >>>> It looks like the headlights are now full brightness but the
    >>>> headlights are still on (I want them to be off and operated only by
    >>>> the light switch).
    >>>>
    >>>> What is the next step - jumper the DRL relay ?
    >>>>
    >>>> Anyone have any suggestions?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>

    >Why would you WANT to disable DRLs????????
    >
    >Just let the dang things light up. They don't cost you ANY gas.
    >They are required by law in quite a few countries - and the beauty of
    >the Pontiac system is it is impossible to walk away from your car
    >leaving the lights on if you just leave it on automatic.



    The reason why to disconnect the DRL is bacuse they don't play nice
    with HID headlights which REQUIRE full voltage (12 volts+) to work
    correctly. DRL only supplies around 8-10 volts which causes the HID
    headlight to frequently not work or flicker.

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